This time, Ollie, Tom and Dexter get into the messy, fast-moving world of Scope 3 tools – and what the new Scope 3 Tools Intelligence Report reveals about buyers, vendors and the reality behind the dashboards.

Nick Donoghue, the brains behind Scope3Navigator.com and the analysis for the report, joins the show to unpack what Scope 3 practitioners are really saying: why big RFPs often miss the point, why most large businesses are still using multiple tools, why data still does not flow properly between systems, and why price is only one part of the real cost of implementation.

The group also digs into AI, chatbots replacing dashboards, consolidation, product-level data, and why sustainability software cannot be sold like ordinary SaaS.

Then, Ollie sits down with Laura Santiago Subero and Aurélie Fidalgo from Suntory to talk about Scope 3 from inside a major global drinks business. It’s a practical conversation about procurement, supplier maturity, internal collaboration and how Suntory is building supplier engagement across ingredients, glass, packaging, logistics, regenerative agriculture and more. The pair explain how they are building bridges between sustainability and procurement, why they use “maturity mountain” models with suppliers, and why Scope 3 tools need to be simple, standardised and scalable if they are going to work in the real world.

Finally, Tom speaks to Michael Fernandez-Ferri, co-founder of VELA, about wind-powered freight and why the future of shipping might borrow more from ocean racing than container shipping. Michael explains why VELA is building a modern sailing cargo trimaran, how it aims to sit between air freight and sea freight, why pharma, luxury, cosmetics, wine and spirits are early target markets, and how wind, solar, hydrogen and green refrigerated holds could help move high-value goods across the Atlantic with far lower emissions.

🎧 It’s another packed episode. Enjoy. And remember: all of our previous episodes are available online at www.scope3peergroup.com/podcast.