There are those that run toward the sound of change This week on the podcast we talk with Marcus Ferrell, a man with a storied political career and a burning passion for criminal justice reform and equality. Marcus has worked as a consultant for the Bernie Sanders' 2016 presidential race, David Garcia's gubernatorial campaign in 2018, and Adrian Fontes' run for Maricopa County Recorder in 2016. We also talk race, racism, and Arizona. You won't want to miss this conversation with a true change engineer.