We're almost a full year into this administration, and a lot of you are wondering: Where's the justice we fought for? Where's the liberation we voted for?

In this episode, Nikki Blak sits down with Los Angeles based community organizer and artist Shelley Bruce, for real and passionate conversation about what happens when your ballots don't deliver what your people need.

They talk about how to keep showing up, what to do when the policies don't match the campaign promises, and why the work of liberation cannot be outsourced to politicians — no matter how progressive they claim to be.

You'll hear:

• How to stay politically engaged without being politically manipulated

• Why we need to organize with more than just hope and vibes

• The role of grief, boundaries, and realism in movement work

• How to build your own "presidential term" — the one focused on and unapolgetic about your community, your values, your people

Shelley brings grounded wisdom, emotional clarity, and the kind of energy that reminds you liberation is always ours to claim.

This is a life-giving conversation for anyone who's been tired, betrayed, or burnt out — and still believes another world is possible.

Special thanks to Def Sound for providing the theme for Interrupting Everything.⁣⁣⁣⁣