On this episode, I speak with an unconventional secondary school friend, Leo. He is adopted, was a top runner in school and escaped school to roam drains and forests, because he found little meaning in school.

He eventually used skills beyond school to make money – trading whiskey and trading on the markets. Yet, the never-ending drive for excess lead him down dark paths, and lessons that came with it.

All this while being an Army regular – a profession he enjoyed because his love for the jungle and learning from others. He is leaving the force soon, will continue to trade, and has dreams to set up a orphanage in future, in his words “To give kids dignity and love; the same priceless intangibles his parents gave me. They are free to make their own choices after, but everyone deserves a proper start like I did”

We discuss his journey, life lessons, and eventually on financial resilience – how to make, save and grow your money, with emphasis on principles, emotional control (and not losing your soul)