Derick Lugo aka Mr. Fabulous, thru-hiker, author of "The Unlikely Thru-Hiker" and host of the Unlikely Stories Podcast and I discuss his established passion for the outdoors after thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail, how difficult it was doing his audiobook narration and have a lengthy discussion on what the convoluted and confusing topic of inclusion means in the outdoors community.

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