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In Part 2 of Episode 575 of It’s All About the Children on hmTv, hosts Carin and Sami continue their powerful conversation with Jeff Schoep, a former leader in the neo-Nazi movement who now works to prevent radicalization and help people leave hate behind.

Jeff shares the deeply personal turning points that led him away from extremism, including meaningful encounters with people who had been harmed by the very ideology he once promoted. Together, Jeff and Sami Steigmann, Holocaust survivor, educator, actor, and motivational speaker, explore the power of words, the danger of assumptions, the need for critical thinking, and the importance of teaching young people to become upstanders rather than bystanders.

The conversation also addresses how adults, schools, parents, media, and leaders must do more to protect children from hate, misinformation, online radicalization, and emotional disconnection.

At its heart, this episode is about changing perspective, choosing humanity, and using dialogue, empathy, and courage to confront darkness with light. 

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