<p>In this episode, I spoke to Rami Ismail about his love of aviation. We talk about the beauty of defying gravity, how you can fly with glasses, and the inability of the games industry to maintain institutional knowledge.</p>

In this episode, I spoke to Rami Ismail about his love of aviation. We talk about the beauty of defying gravity, how you can fly with glasses, and the inability of the games industry to maintain institutional knowledge.

Ep. 58 Flying gets you out of the house

'What else do you do?' is an interview podcast where Masao, an indie game producer, talks to various game developers about what they do when they're not making games.

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Ep. 58 Flying gets you out of the house

Ep. 58 Flying gets you out of the house