Billy & Elliott talk about the things we do outside the job that keep us sane—whether we call them hobbies, habits, or just “how I decompress.” They get into golf frustration and comparison (“golfers are liars”), archery, rucking and walking for miles, and the unexpected hobby that’s bringing real joy lately: podcasting.

Somewhere in the middle, a phrase shows up that sums it all up: tactical joy—being deliberate about finding the small moments that reset your head, build camaraderie, and remind you there’s more to life than the grind.

Takeaway: Find yours. Share it. And stop pretending you “don’t do anything.”