Today we're diving into the big ol' world of spirituality, which, let's be real, is like trying to nail Jell-O to a wall. We’re chatting about how spirituality can mean a million different things to different folks and how it often gets tangled up with organized religion—like mixing oil and water, ya know? I’ve got my own wild journey to share, growing up with a family that didn’t do the whole church thing, and realizing that for me, spirituality is more about those quiet moments in nature where I feel like a tiny speck in this vast universe. Taft's been on a rollercoaster ride too, breaking free from his Mormon roots and figuring out what spirituality means outside of that box.