Our most heated discussion since Alabama vs IVF (Veni, Vidi, In-Vitro), this week we're talking about Elon Musk, DOGE, and ethics in government and oversight. How Dodgy is DOGE? Does Musk's conflict of interest Trump the potential for reform? We went long on this one, so buckle in for an argumentative, philosophical, ideological battle that lasted longer than Doug's bladder or Tom's patience. Go Dad Go.

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DOGE Findings CBS 

DOGE inaccuracies (trying to be nice here...) Politico  

Musk on DOGE Mistakes, Moving Fast, and Correcting them - Fox News 

Voters' Opinions - Politico 

Musk and Conflict of Interest - EPI