Nate Gutter, this week's sacrifice to the podcast gods, moved around Idaho a bit as a kid, from Albion to Emmett, until he finally settled in good ol' Idaho Falls. Nate is the second of six siblings. All boys. Can you imagine? The bathrooms must have been hellish. The Mavens talk with him about growing up with all brothers and setting things on fire. And if you're lucky like Sam, you too were picked to be the pressure point demonstration dummy. Aren't families great? They go over how collecting and hoarding can cross paths and his struggle to overcome it. Sam opens up about her own mental health, her recent ADHD diagnosis, and how things are different for her now. On to a gorier, more Mothbally note, Nate collects creepy T-shirts, living dead dolls, and anything horror. He has a special affinity for Freddy Krueger. Jill has a hard time taking any medical horror (gore in general) seriously because, well, when you've seen the real thing, you can't spot the fake a mile off. Jill is the real deal.

Thank you to our team :

Edit and Sound Design by: Grae @ Grae Matter Studios

Intro by: Caylin Temple

Copyediting by: Spell Check

intro and Outro Music: Down the Rabbit Hole by myuu

Source: https://soundcloud.com/myuu/down-the-rabbit-hole

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