This week Craig and Nick sit down with Daniel and Shane from Idyllwild and talk: 5 pieces, Idyllwild, Playing with family, Indie Alt Rock, Tool, Modest Mouse, Radiohead, QOTSA, Kurt Cobain, Big Thief, JPJ, Social Network, Covid, USPS, Groove E-bikes, Rasta Bigfoot socks, Bubble gum eye, 1st, Nathan For You, Smoke detectors, Apple music, Desert island, Lamppost Brewery, and much much more