Simon Cockerell has been to North Korea over 150 times. He’s the GM of Koryo Tours, a company which pioneered Western tourism in the 90s to the most isolated country on earth.

Despite a modicum of modesty, he knows more about the country than almost any non-North Korean and even hung out with Dennis Rodman a couple of times.

Today’s track is Mansard Roof by Vampire Weekend.

Thanks for listening