It is not uncommon to look back at a recent relapse and ask ourself "what was that about?". In this episode Vern seeks to answer that question by exploring what our relapses reveal.


I love to talk to Pastors - especially those who are looking to deal with their unmanageable sexual behaviors.

If you need a safe place to talk - you can reach out to me at

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You can also see some more resources on my website

https://bandofbrothers.care