In this episode, I am joined by Sabrina Brando. Sabrina the director of Animal Concepts and is a world renowned consultant and animal care professional who helps organizations all over the world with all things wellbeing- human and animal. In this wide ranging conversation we talk about how Sabrina got into the industry, common themes and approaches to helping animal care organizations work together more effectively as well as how you can show up to work and lead up the chain of command. Enjoy!

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