In this episode, we talked to our new friend Em Beihold about fencing, moving goal posts, professional communicating, poker metaphors, fighting with Chopin, parental cameos, Regina Spektor, antidepressants, song responsibilities, existentialism, identity damage, celebrity relationships, the 46th minute, free advertising, getting lost in Mono Lake, embroidery, swashbuckling, quality decisions, and her song "Groundhog Day".