karl relates his tumultuous weekend at a natural wine festival, and joel has been perfecting his pizza technique at home, possibly in preparation for someday attending the big pizza expo and flaunting his skills while barenaked ladies plays for some reason. then, the boys are joined by food writer/LA food luminary Javier Cabral aka @theglutster to discuss spice literacy, his extensive taste safari in mexico, and a lil something called taco madness.