In this episode, we talked to our new friend Naethan Apollo about Iowa's Slipknot, gym rap, post-ironic sincerity, lyrical logic, the effort of effortlessness, eye color ballads, being Nates, putting numbers in perspective, the story behind the added "e", choosing what to focus on, desensitization, saving lives, narcissism, perpetual honeymoons, Dungeons & Dragons, derechos, his songs ("To You, From Me"/"Sightsee"), and his new single "Hungry World".