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Ep. 69 - From Broken Cross-Border Payments to Agentic Commerce — Why Stablecoins Change Everything with Damisa
In this episode, hosts Grant Evans and Justin Hanna are joined by Jordan Lawrence, Co-Founder of Damisa, to unpack why traditional cross-border payments remain so inefficient — and why stablecoins could fundamentally reshape how global commerce moves money.
Jordan shares the thinking behind launching Damisa, and where the biggest pain points still sit across correspondent banking, FX, settlement delays, and fragmented compliance. The conversation explores why these inefficiencies disproportionately impact e-commerce businesses and emerging markets, and how modern digital rails can unlock faster, more transparent movement of value.
They also dive into the growing debate around trust in crypto versus fiat, separating speculative crypto narratives from the real-world use of stablecoin infrastructure in payments and treasury. From revenue-generating use cases to programmable liquidity, the discussion looks at where stablecoins are already delivering meaningful commercial value today.
Looking ahead, the episode explores the rise of agentic commerce — where AI agents transact autonomously — and why stablecoins may become the native settlement layer for machine-to-machine payments and next-generation ecommerce.
Plus, Jordan steps up for The Payments Shed’s legendary Shelf of Shame — calling out one myth in crypto and cross-border payments he’d happily banish forever.
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The Payments Shed Podcast is headline sponsored by ISX Financial.
ISX Financial, delivers a unified ecosystem with multi-currency accounts, online payments, real-time UK and EU transfers and global mass payouts. Within that platform, PaidBy® provides Pay by Bank with real-time settlement notifications, automated reconciliation and integrated refund management. One partner, one integration — helping your business transact with confidence. Learn more at www.isx.financial
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The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops.
Cyclops is a crypto and stablecoin infrastructure platform for payments companies, enabling PSPs, acquirers and processors to offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts without building their own blockchain stack. It provides a unified solution for pay ins, payouts and fiat to digital asset conversion, with simple API or low code integration. Built specifically for the payments ecosystem, Cyclops focuses on making stablecoins practical, scalable and commercially viable.
Learn more at - https://www.cyclops.io/
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The Payments Shed Podcast is supported by PCN.
PCN is a boutique recruitment agency rooted in Amsterdam, driven by a singular mission: connecting top talent with industry leaders. PCN specialises in five core pillars — Fintech, Cybersecurity, SaaS, E-Commerce, and Salesforce — backed by a global network across borders.https://teampcn.com/
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Disclaimer. Any views or opinions referenced in this podcast episode are our own, or those of our respective guests, and they do not represent any views, opinions, or statements from our respective employers, or those of our guests. Additionally, any views expressed here are not intended as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice.
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By Grant Evans and Justin HannaIn this episode, hosts Grant Evans and Justin Hanna are joined by Jordan Lawrence, Co-Founder of Damisa, to unpack why traditional cross-border payments remain so inefficient — and why stablecoins could fundamentally reshape how global commerce moves money.
Jordan shares the thinking behind launching Damisa, and where the biggest pain points still sit across correspondent banking, FX, settlement delays, and fragmented compliance. The conversation explores why these inefficiencies disproportionately impact e-commerce businesses and emerging markets, and how modern digital rails can unlock faster, more transparent movement of value.
They also dive into the growing debate around trust in crypto versus fiat, separating speculative crypto narratives from the real-world use of stablecoin infrastructure in payments and treasury. From revenue-generating use cases to programmable liquidity, the discussion looks at where stablecoins are already delivering meaningful commercial value today.
Looking ahead, the episode explores the rise of agentic commerce — where AI agents transact autonomously — and why stablecoins may become the native settlement layer for machine-to-machine payments and next-generation ecommerce.
Plus, Jordan steps up for The Payments Shed’s legendary Shelf of Shame — calling out one myth in crypto and cross-border payments he’d happily banish forever.
***
The Payments Shed Podcast is headline sponsored by ISX Financial.
ISX Financial, delivers a unified ecosystem with multi-currency accounts, online payments, real-time UK and EU transfers and global mass payouts. Within that platform, PaidBy® provides Pay by Bank with real-time settlement notifications, automated reconciliation and integrated refund management. One partner, one integration — helping your business transact with confidence. Learn more at www.isx.financial
***
The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops.
Cyclops is a crypto and stablecoin infrastructure platform for payments companies, enabling PSPs, acquirers and processors to offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts without building their own blockchain stack. It provides a unified solution for pay ins, payouts and fiat to digital asset conversion, with simple API or low code integration. Built specifically for the payments ecosystem, Cyclops focuses on making stablecoins practical, scalable and commercially viable.
Learn more at - https://www.cyclops.io/
***
The Payments Shed Podcast is supported by PCN.
PCN is a boutique recruitment agency rooted in Amsterdam, driven by a singular mission: connecting top talent with industry leaders. PCN specialises in five core pillars — Fintech, Cybersecurity, SaaS, E-Commerce, and Salesforce — backed by a global network across borders.https://teampcn.com/
***
Disclaimer. Any views or opinions referenced in this podcast episode are our own, or those of our respective guests, and they do not represent any views, opinions, or statements from our respective employers, or those of our guests. Additionally, any views expressed here are not intended as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice.