This is a conversation I have had on my dream list since I started doing this podcast, with my pastor and friend Steve Hartman. He has been the pastor at our church, Kiokee Baptist, for about 25 years and married to his beautiful wife Susan for 39. A father to two adult kids and one in Heaven, he shares honestly about his life with Jesus. We talk about our thought life, the sovereignty of God in suffering, our relationship with our sin as we mature in Christ, and so many other things. I hope this conversation encourages you like it does me! 

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