Let's talk about shame. This is a concept that has been popularized in recent years and it seems that the cultural conclusion is that there is no place for shame in our growth. So I brought in Carmen Spagnola and Rachael Rice to share their thoughts on shame and what it could look like to use shame as a tool for healing and community building. To grab the show notes including all the information on today’s guests, go to www.ThaisSky.com/podcast/7.