Dr. Alison Jane Martingano believes most people are good — not perfect, not flawless, but genuinely trying their best. And she’s got the research to prove it.

In this episode, host Dr. Ryan Martin chats with Dr. Martingano, assistant professor of psychology and head of UW–Green Bay’s Social Research Lab, about what empathy really means, why it’s so hard (but so worth it), and how things like books, conversations, and even a little curiosity can make us better at understanding each other.

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