We meet Emma Philpott MBE - academic, cyber security expert and business leader. Emma tells us how her career has meandered to a good place, and that is okay. That when she was underestimated and frustrated early in the piece her best boss saw her potential and gave her the support to grow in her own way. And how she landed in the right place through adversity: changing tack and building communities of cyber security firms, driven by a sense of fairness. She explains how mistakes and failure can be turned into opportunities with the addition of a sense of optimism. Emma closes by explaining how the organisation she founded and runs succeeds because it is inclusive and proactively recruits neuro-diverse people. It's not just the right thing to do, it's good for business.