Dave's guest is Kamal Sinclair who currently serves as the Director of the Sundance Institute’s New Frontier Labs Program, which supports artists working at the convergence of film, art, media and technology – that means things like AR, VR and Data as storytelling mediums. She’s also a consultant to the Ford Foundation's JustFilms program focused on using emerging media as a tool for social justice. She’s been in the art game for a long time wearing many hats – artistic director, writer, producer even dancing in STOMP back in the day.