Presenting the interview with The Dapper Hijabi, the phenomenal self-defense instructor, martial arts researcher and practitioner. Listen as Tay and The Dapper Hijabi discuss Black empowerment and self-defense, Islam as both an embodied and martial arts practice, applying disability justice framework to martial arts, and the spiritual art to martial artistry.

**Featured song (does not belong to me): Assalamu 3laikum by Shadia Mansour.