Yes, there's an immaterial forces. We can know that these immaterial forces are actually persons, as we can observe the repetitive natures that they have. And, because they are persons, we can expect to be able to communicate with them. Or, at least, it would make sense to seek out that possiblity. First we will begin by discussing what it even looks like to speak to these spirits, and for this episode, specifically in the form of out of body communication.

For extra commentary:

Biblical Series I: Introduction to the Idea of God (Jordan Peterson) https://youtu.be/f-wWBGo6a2w?t=1170

Exorcism and Deliverance: Multi-Disciplinary Studies (William K. Kay & Robin Parry)

The Interpretation of Dreams (Jordan Peterson) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpDPHXIPq1Q

The Pyschedelic Gospels: The Secret History of Hallucinogens in Christianity (Jerry & Julie Brown)