Join John and Wendy as they cozy up with a hot toddy and dive into the real side of interior design. They break down what design school actually teaches you, what it completely leaves out, and why hands on experience matters more than any textbook. They also go deeper into how designers charge for their services, the reality behind markups and logistics, and the truth about install day and why it’s the most stressful part of the job. Plus, they answer a listener question about what it feels like when a design presentation gets rejected and how they pivot when that happens.

Cocktail: Hot Toddy
 2 oz Angel’s Envy whiskey
 1 tablespoon honey
 1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice
 6 oz hot water

Stir all ingredients together in a mug, garnish with a lemon slice if desired, and enjoy warm.