We pal around with filmmaker @caseypuccini and discuss his work, his concept of art, and why any of us even fucking bother.

Also we talk about the documentary My Life Directed by Nicolas Winding Refn but that feels too long for the title and we only kinda mention that towards the end. And we have a whole bonus hour of this conversation that will go out in a few days with even more of our lively spoofs and goofs.