Acclaimed filmmaker and author JOHN SAYLES joins Dan to talk about the movies he’s made (Dan’s worked on three of them: Passion Fish, City of Hope, and Matewan, which was his first-ever job in the film industry) as well as the price one pays to be “independent”, the movies John watched while he was growing up – and his “other” career as a novelist, with his latest, CRUCIBLE, out in bookstores right now.

 Dan and John had not seen each other in over 25 years, so this is no mere podcast “interview” – it’s a reunion, a warm conversation between old co-workers and friends, with many insights into the process of creating stories on screen and on the page.  Plus, a few laughs here and there. 

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