This is part three of my conversation with Karen and Greg Mortimer, who moved to Denver's East Side in 2004, when most of the neighbors were Black and Latino.  They've seen dramatic changes on their block over these 12 years. In this episode, they reflect on gentrification and race, which are not easy topics for people to discuss - especially when they are being recorded! You'll understand the Mortimer's perspective better if you have already listened to their story in the two previous parts of our conversation.