So many of us search for purpose. We go on a quest for meaning. We go inward on this search for the holy grail.

What if we're looking in the wrong place?

What if the answer was a bit counterintuitive... but also simpler?

In this conversation, I explore why listening to scientists talk about their work has me feeling like maybe we're asking the wrong questions.

04:46 what got me thinking about this

06:40 the thing that really triggered my fascination

08:55 the magic of why scientists embody this

10:00 the mistake that most people make when searching for purpose or meaning

10:33 where true meaning, purpose, and fulfillment comes from

11:16 the ironic truth of why this works

11:58 a personal story that really resonated with me recently

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