In this episode, we explore Dr. Ben Kuan’s journey—from his early days as a medical volunteer to becoming a key advocate for low-wage migrant workers' healthcare. As a family physician, CEO, and passionate public health champion, Dr. Ben Kuan shares his insights on leading through crises, and the future of sustainable healthcare for vulnerable communities. What is Third Spacing? By healthcare students/workers, across disciplines and schools, we speak to clinicians, academics, and members of civil society who expand what we think about care delivery. Why we create podcasts? Scaling honest conversations for change, centring human experiences, starting with healthcare. Email us at [email protected] our Instagram @thirdspacing