In this episode, Suzanne Spradley and Chase Cannon revisit the single payer debate in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic. Suzanne starts by exploring whether support for a single payer system in the US has waxed or waned during the pandemic. Chase and Suzanne then discuss articles from experts, and comparisons across different countries, regarding governmental versus private company response to the pandemic. Suzanne dives into the history behind US governmental stockpiles of protective gear and ventilators, and draws comparisons between the US and other countries in pandemic preparedness. Suzanne and Chase close with a review of presidential nominee Joe Biden’s views towards single payer system and how Congress’s potential Phase Four legislation might impact access to coverage.