Episode number 8 coming hot off the presses. This week we sit down with VMA award-winning mega director, Drew Kirsch, and special guest Quinn XCII about so much good stuff. First, Drew takes us through the mindset of believing it's always your time to shine and how that propelled him to where he is today (7:34). He also explains how breaking and tweaking the rules of content create a long-lasting stamp that is your own unique brand (19:05). Drew shares some inside tips and recommendations on entering the music biz, and explains the difference from film school to learning in the field (39:03). Quinn XCII joins the show to talk about his collaborations with Drew, talks about his music, and why collaborations are so important to success. They also discuss the importance of client relationships and making sure to make a client a long-term partnership, and not a short-term money grab (54:15).

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