Stephanie and Craig are pleased to welcome to the show Andrew Ellis, VP Corporate Strategy of EVNTL, and a former Assistant Director of Operations at CSIS until 2016. Andy walks us through the world of open source corporate intelligence and what he has learned transitioning from government service to the private sector. We then spend the bulk of the podcast talking about the overseas kidnapping and hostage-talking of Canadians. This has a very difficult area for years, and Andy shares his views on what can be done to minimize the risks, and what Canadian policy should look like. To avoid terrifying you on your travels, we chose to release this podcast after March Break!