joel is back from the big apple with tales of gastronomic excess and karl is excited that it's oyster weather again, even though it's actually always oyster weather but hey, just let him have this, ya know? then the fellas are joined by Chris Kronner of the great Kronnerburger (@kronnerburger) to talk crippling restaurant fires, killing the pop-up game, killing actual cows, and why that funky rare meat makes the best burg.