This week, we have a conversation between contributor Matt Ruby and guest, Luisa Díez. Both an anthropologist and a comedy booker, Diez views the comedy world with the mindset of her training in anthropology…

Later in the episode, Jacqueline Soller and J McVay discuss the recently released movie, Can You Ever Forgive Me?, directed by Marielle Heller and starring Melissa McCarthy and Richard E. Grant.

And we’ll take an exclusive early listen to a performance by Alabama folk-pop band, The Underhill Family Orchestra, from their upcoming BTR Live Studio session.

Music composed by and show edited by Hansdale Hsu.

00:00 - Intro

01:18 - START /// Matt Ruby chats w/ Luisa Díez about her anthropological view of comedy / “Comedy is the most interesting artform” / Temporality: Statues vs. Paintings vs. Jokes / The feedback loop

07:32 - A lot of comedians don’t like comedy

12:34 - Interests as a curator

15:08 - Intentionality / “Post-comedy”

24:25 - Comedy is like a bottle fly / When is art finished?

30:00 - Why is comedy considered a lower artform? / The Gatekeeper Problem

37:52 - Are there artists in the fine art world with the mindset of a comedian?

40:05 - 5 types of “idol breakers”

48:29 - Diversity in comedy / “Me Too” in comedy / Louis CK /// END

55:53 - 1st Person: Carol // Her Childhood Home in Argentina

59:03 - "Chickasaw Fields" (BTR Live Studio, 2018) - The Underhill Family Orchestra

64:04 - Movie Review: Jacqueline Soller on ‘Can You Ever Forgive Me?’

65:35 - Movie Chat: Jacqueline Soller + J. McVay (spoiler alert)

77:05 - John Knefel // The Dangers of Gender Based Violence

79:02 - Outro / Credits

79:50 - Finish.