Sohrab Ahmari, founder and editor of Compact, joins James Poulos to discuss the new Trump era of nationalism and populism centered on workers, tariffs, and immigration policy. As Trump brings Elon Musk into the conversation, conservatives are divided over Musk’s libertarian, techno-utopian vision where AI and free markets drive the future. Will these two visions clash in the near future? Ahmari warns that private power like Big Tech and leaders like Elon Musk can be just as dangerous as government overreach — something libertarians need to take note of. With corporate influence, Section 230, woke capitalism, and the rise of digital censorship still shaping the political landscape, conservatives must decide: Should they trust Musk or challenge him?

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