<p>The preseason is under way, which means only a few weeks of meaningless games until the real deal kicks off!<br>
Darren and Stuart talk the teams who have improved the most, those who have gotten worse and those who... are all over the map!</p>

The preseason is under way, which means only a few weeks of meaningless games until the real deal kicks off! Darren and Stuart talk the teams who have improved the most, those who have gotten worse and those who... are all over the map!

Ep 85 - Movers and Shakers

4th And Forever is an American Football Podcast featuring Darren Butter and Stuart Bothwell - two Scotsmen who live in New Zealand and have an unhealthy obsession with American Football. Contact the lads on 4thAndForeverFootball@gmail.com or search for 4th And Forever Podcast on Facebook.

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Ep 85 - Movers and Shakers

Ep 85 - Movers and Shakers