After their very recent retrospective of the Studio Ghibli canon, James and Imo apply their critical binoculars to Hayao Miyazaki's latest award-winning animation 'The Boy and the Heron' (2023), starring the voices of Robert Pattison, Christian Bale, Gemma Chan, Karen Fukuhara, Florence Pugh, Willem Dafoe and Mark Hamill (for the English dub).

Spirited away by previous Miyazaki movies, what do they think of his newest feature? They discuss everything from the stunningly detailed animation to its thematic connections with the filmmaker's wider work.

Is it a fevered dream of Ghibli wonders, or just a bit bird-brained?