In this episode of the Enneagram & The Holidays series on the podcast, we’re hanging out with my fellow deep diving Enneagram Five friend, Steph — aka the professor/researcher who once swore she was a Three.

We talk about what it’s like to realize you’ve been mistyped for years, how owning her true Five-ness completely shifted her career and happiness, and why Fives wake up with a finite amount of energy (and absolutely no interest in being your free party trick or small-talk machine).

From overstimulating holiday parties and managing limited social batteries, to the quiet magic of twinkle lights, Die Hard on the couch, and actually feeling content for the first time in years — this conversation is honest, funny, and deeply validating for every Five (and everyone who loves one).

If you’re a Five, love a Five, or you’re trying to figure yourself out this holiday season, this episode will give you language, permission, and a whole lot of compassion.

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