Tarot reader, Reiki Master, 13th Octave LaHoChi master, Breathwork facilitator, and creator of Ostara Apothecary Jordan Pagán joins host Eryn Johnson to talk about cultural appropriation. We talk about her work healing personal trauma, how to choose teachers to work with, decolonizing your healing practice including shame that can come up around this, resistance to looking at the shadow side, 13th Octave LaHoChi, her relationship with the tarot, deprogramming needing to be strong and tough, and more.