This episode is a bit special and serves two purposes. For our Australian listeners, it continues on the discussion about navigating the Voice to Parliament discussion with your board. Paul hosted a webinar recently and this is a snippet from a special panel discussion with guests Jessica Bulger (from the Australian Indigenous Governance Institute) and Kate Hillman (from Ernst & Young).   For our overseas listeners, there is still some great stuff here for you if you are interested in how indigenous governance differs from modern governance norms, and what we can learn fro each other. It was a fascinating chat.   Please note, the audio is not up to the usual standard.   More from Jessica:AIGI Website: https://aigi.org.au/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-bulger-3993925b/   More from Paul:  Website: https://futuredirectors.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/futurepaulsmith/   More from Kate:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-hillman-11007040/