Former All-American strong safety and Bison great Colten Heagle joins Swany and Joe for a freewheeling conversation on everything from winning four national championships, what it's like to deal with a season-ending knee injury, and the role strong leadership plays within North Dakota State's high-performing culture.

With Bison defensive end and All-American Greg Menard going down over the weekend with a season-ending knee injury, Heagle provides a unique perspective on how the Bison deal with injuries and what "next man up" really means.

The Appleton, Wisconsin native, who now works at Choice Financial in Fargo, also offers a "hot take" on UCLA quarterback Josh Rosen's recent claim that it's impossible to be a serious student and a college athlete at the same time, and offers his thoughts on the best Bison defense of all-time.

Colten and the guys round out their discussion by talking about the Bison Football Players Association and the cool things former NDSU football players are doing to stay connected.