In this episode of The Real Shift Show, co-hosts Anna Crowe and Katy Temple sit down with Dr. Deepika Chopra — clinical health psychologist, author, and founder of “All Things Are Looking Up.”

Dr. Chopra has spent years studying the science of optimism — not as blind positivity, but as a powerful, evidence-based tool for resilience, health, and performance. Her work bridges neuroscience, psychology, and real-life application, helping people shift how they think about the future — and ultimately how they show up in the present. 💡

The shift: Optimism isn’t about ignoring reality — it’s about how you face it. Dr. Chopra introduces the concept of real optimism — the ability to acknowledge challenges while still believing in your capacity to move through them. Because the brain is always anticipating what comes next… and what you expect shapes how you act. In this episode, we talk about:

How to train your mind to expect better outcomes

A line you’ll remember: “Optimism isn’t about denying the dark — it’s about learning to see in it.” Dr. Chopra reminds us that optimism isn’t something you’re born with — it’s something you build. Not by pretending everything is okay… but by trusting that you can handle what isn’t. And sometimes, the most powerful shift isn’t thinking bigger — it’s expecting differently.

Learn more about Dr. Deepika Chopra: Website: https://allthingsarelookingup.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/drdeepikachopra/ Book: Real Optimism (available wherever books are sold)

👇 Join the conversation: What did this episode shift for you? Where in your life could you practice “real optimism”? What are you choosing to expect next?