When you are a small business or entrepreneur, what is it to be motivated? Who has motivation? Who needs it? And where can you find it in order to keep moving forward in your business? JinJa Birkenbeuel, CEO of Birk Creative and Esther Ikoro, Content Strategist for Birk Creative try to find out between the two of them which is more motivated (LOL), how to create lists and even find external signals that can drive motivation when you don't have it inside yourself.