Ohio Democratic party chair David Pepper talks to us about: Ohio's recent successful gerrymandering reform; his extensive Russian background, the three years he spent working with Vladimir Putin in St. Petersburg, and his impressions of Putin; Russian election interference and how the Ohio case sadly mirrors the confusion and disinterest that Trump is showing the issue at the federal level; about a series of Ohio scandals that should help Democrats in November; and more generally a discussion of key Ohio races taking place this fall. And finally, David talks about his new book, "The Wingman."

This is a 10-minute excerpt (about gerrymandering and Putin) of the 75-minute long episode. Premium patrons can listen to the entire episode, and support our podcast, here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/18864921

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