Dr. Kristin ‘Rosie’ Barnes is back! This former F-14 Tomcat radar intercept officer turned doctor is blazing a path of healing while putting the ladder down to help others. Rosie debriefs her joint MDMA/psilocybin journey, which was basically a 1v1 dogfight with herself. MDMA is a ‘heart opener’ while psilocybin for some is more ‘internal’. She debriefs how she faced and started healing the moral injuries she incurred flying combat sorties over Afghanistan. Her incredible journey included her ‘feeling’ every armed conflict back to World War I, feeling the sheer terror of trench warfare as a young soldier. She also debriefs her ketamine experience and along with Whiz, strongly recommends this medicine as a bridge or ‘triage’ to potentially lead to deeper healing with plant medicine. Finally, Whiz and Doc agree that these healing medicines have the potential to turn warriors into peacemakers. Maybe this is a reason our government is dragging their feet to legalize these medicines for therapeutic use?