Only the great Carl Phillips could warrant an episode all to himself. Recorded at the Sewanee Writers' Conference in 2021, James and Carl discuss assembling a collection, enjoying feeling lost, letting go of the argument, and putting a wedge between yourself and the unbearable.

Sewanee Writers' Conference 2022 Applications due March 15!

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Music courtesy of Bea Troxel.

Produced/ Mixed by Ryan Shea.

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