Charlie and Mike have a conversation today about visiting the national parks in Arizona and Utah. How their experiences were different and similar. They talk about pickle and pinto bean pie, loving the parks to death, and finding balance between preservation and enjoying God's creation. They also converse a bit about the new adventure of raising pigs, and coming to a place of acceptance regarding the BCAproperty. If you enjoy the show, hit like, subscribe, leave a review and share it with others.

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